Jill In Brazil: Indulge me for a minute.

Jill In Brazil: Indulge me for a minute.: "My Resonse to the rebuttle on Face book… and hopefully my last. Troy Said: I like the quote by michael savege, liberalism is a mental diso..."

Indulge me for a minute.

 

My Resonse to the rebuttle on Face book… and hopefully my last.

Along with a lot of back an forth about politics and not even catching a glimps of eye to eye...and thenTroy Said again:  I like the quote by michael savege, liberalism is a mental disorder, it’s like talking to a brick wall.  And what built this country? Hard work or free rides? By the way, the rich pay almost all of the taxes, do your home work...  and I write...

All programs are flawed and there is always someone taking advantage of a system at every level not just the poor. Why do you focus all of your energy on those people?
Where do you get 50-60% taxes and why would you think that is what liberals want? You got a tax break last year, or didn't you know. This is fear that you are spewing and that you have been sold. Why are you so worried about what your boss makes? Just that statement shows me that you have been sold fear. As the middle class dwindles be happy that you woted for your boss because he will be just fine.

Your principals are strong and I understand them well, however these days your principals will only take you so far.  What about fighting for the middle class?

Indulge me for a moment if you will.

When you pay taxes… Where do they go?  Have you ever walked into a store and put money on the table and walked out expecting nothing?  I know that you have noticed that the poor collect; do you notice that the rich collect too?  We, the middle class expect the same but are too proud to ask for a dime and never get a penny. 

What about unions, do you hate these too?    Breaking down unions lowers the general pay; it stops the collective bargaining…when the unions are gone ….as you vote, you will see what happens to peoples salaries across the board.  The main lobby of the People is the unions.  When they go, so will the nation.  Maybe you don’t work for a union and so you don’t like them.  Big Business doesn’t either, but they help the middle class.  You know who the middle class is right?  People making fewer than 250K a year; that’s about 20K a month.  Look what is already happening the jobs of teachers, firefighters, etc. 

In a nutshell what I am trying to say is that if you make under 250K a year than voting conservative these days is voting against your own best interests.   This is not your Father’s party anymore.  And voting your principals in this society with these candidates is cutting you nose off to spite your face because you do not receive any benefits for just being a good person and a hard worker. 

I bought my first house at 29, and I had to work harder because my payments were high even with good credit rating.  I worked my whole life too because I watched my parents work hard and my parents told me that besides being a good person, I would need good credit.    A single lady with 2 kids bought a house near me for way less that I would had to pay a month because she needed the help… supposed ably I would say.  Ok, now we are both 2 women and we both own a home but she had kids so her payments were lower.  Financially she was doing better because her payments are lower but my life was better because I didnt have kids...right?  This sucked, I thought.  Of course it sucks for liberals too.    Then I realized that life isn’t fair for the middle class.  We pay because we are proud, then we give our earned money to help good causes because we feel good and because it is expected of us, then we work harder because it is what we learned and hope to have enough money for retirement which most people don’t ever have the time to enjoy because this is the time that they get sick.  Then they are happy to have Medicare and start to draw their Social Security which would supplement their pensions and savings if they have them.    By the way, Medicare and Social Security are Democratic programs, ask around and find out how many people collecting their benefits (and I include disability) don’t need them or would like to give them back, because this is what you are voting for.  Again you are voting against your best interest. 

I know that it was these principles that built America, but I didn’t go out and vote against my best interest, I voted for the party that is more likely to help me when I need it.  Again, what has the Republican Party ever done you (the middle class) or small businesses in the last 10 years? 

When you are making over 250K…switch parties but if your income is unlikely to change during the next voting cycle, I know who will get my vote while we still have a 2 party system. 

However, I will always vote to help the middle class when I am rich and famous (let’s say) and if I help the poor along the way, then so be it because one day their child may be sitting in class next to mine and also because I like to leave the front door unlocked when I am at home.    Not all poor people are lazy have you checked out inflation vs. the minimum wage?  If you are a family of four and make $20,000 a year, you are considered poor in America.   

Democracy?

If a free ride is a little help from time to time when a person needs it most, whether it be a child needing healthcare or a young woman needing low cost women’s services, or a mother needing food stamps, or providing our soldiers proper health care when they return from war, well I guess I am guilty.  I didn’t say that the government was perfect, it is just that I would rather see my tax money go back to the people in ways of service and rebuilding infrastructure than in Tax cuts to the wealthy who pay a lesser percentage than their secretaries, or funding unjustified wars or subsidies to Corporations making record profits.  This is the beauty of a Democracy isn’t it?  We both want our tax dollars to count for something don’t we?  So we vote, but holding the congress up from doing their job and walking out on debates isn’t debate or democracy and especially not compromise.

Just because people don’t live their life or think like you doesn’t mean they aren’t as good as you, all personalities, all societies, all nationalities…all types of people built this country not just you.  It strikes me odd that Conservatives are always touting I’m the worker, I do what’s right, I’m the true patriot, I know the true Jesus…as if liberal minded people don’t.  The I got mine, now go get yours …does it really work?

It sounds like you are upset with Obama for not doing enough as he said he would when he took office, are you disappointed in him because he didn’t save you?  You didn’t even vote for him…if anything you made it harder for him to make the changes.  Your party has fought him the whole way… remember for example, the birth certificate thing or the death panel thing?

I think what you are missing is that it is the banks & corporations who are behind all of the candidates, because you need almost a billion $$$$ to get elected president.  Until elections are ran solely on public financing we will never get a real candidate of our choosing. 

Look at your Tea Baggers, they are holding up the congress with their extreme ideas and It is not in the Countries best interest.  Big Money ran a national campaign for Tea party Candidates, a national campaign for name recognition.  They took a gamble as they got the Tea Party of America all riled up because they were turning on the Republicans and now the people are having buyer’s remorse.  Look at the recall elections in Wisconsin and the state of Minnesota.  They ran National campaigns so that they wouldn’t have to debate or interview in their own districts.  Who would or could afford a National Campaign for a congressman, I’d say only Big Money with an agenda.

Here is my reality, I see first-hand In Brasil what it is like when there is a government who has failed its people and years have gone by…YEARS.  Now they have a social divide between the rich and the poor, it is a huge gap.  The haves live behind gates and the have not’s govern themselves.  As good as the people are here and as fun as it is, there is little trust and respect for others.  The handshake means nothing and you will never find a lost and found.  Here everyone has experienced violence in some way at some degree.

America was an experiment in Democracy and it was an amazing blessing to our country.  The teachers, public educators, the soldiers, the nurses, the small business person, the ambulance drivers, the firefighters, the construction workers, the police, and the social workers, etc… are the back bone of this country, they are who built America.  Here in Brasil there is little respect for these jobs… not even the small business owner.  Every idea is the same because the innovation is in Big business which leaves the rest to work for them.  We need to take care of our middle class and help the less fortunate by education, offer services to the elderly and support our families and our workers…it is these ideas that give us strength as a nation.  How we do this is with a democracy and with Democracy there is compromise and unfortunately you are never going to get your way 100% of the time but that is better than never getting your way.

Its Kind of Funny... Right?

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-july-27-2011/gop---special-victims-unit

Oh and here is another fucking funny one...

I love John Stewart... pure comedy

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-july-13-2011/field-of-dongs

Sorry, but it is funny to me!

Response to Debt Debate

Terry Baca More debt doesn't erase current debt. It also does not guarantee that a credit rating won't still go down.

9 hours ago ·

Scott Forrester

First Jill as of jan 2011 foriegners owned 4.45 trillion of U.S debt apporx 47% held by the public of 9.49 trillion and 32% of the total debt of 14.1 trillion China was the largest holder @ 26% with the United Kingdom and Japan holding the... rest. I'm glad to see u still blame Bush and the Tea Party and get your facts from Some left wing nut like randi rhodes. This is obamas party and now one is to blame but him for the default.Just be thankfull you live in a 3 rd world country and can watch from a distance what will happen to the U.S.A as we slide to socialism and poverty because of the left wing.See More

9 hours ago ·

Jill Rios

Yes, if we dont do something NOW.. Our credit rating is likely to be affected too and raising the debt ceiling is to pay for what we already owe so that we dont default. Also, it is important to not only make cuts but we need to find new r...evenue, the Tea Party Repbulicans took and owth to Grover Norquest that they would not raise the taxes on the rich & Corporations which would make a huge difference towards getting to a balanced budget. Which is the goal for everyone Repubilcan or Democrat. I might add that the last time we experienced this was before Bush took office.See More

5 hours ago ·

Terry Baca Common sense should tell you that you don't borrow more to get out of debt. Where does it end? I've not once heard a liberal want a balanced budget. And taxing more so you can spend more does not mean balancing.

about an hour ago ·

Jill Rios What do you mean there was a surplus when Bush took office?

about an hour ago ·

Jill Rios I understand that you blame Obama, but what I don’t understand is how it is so easy for you to wash your hands clean of the Bush presidency, please remember that going to 2 wars, starting Medicare part D & giving Tax cuts (which make up 20% of the budget) were on Bush’s watch not to mention the country’s largest attack on our soil. He did these during a war and did not pay for them and did not put them on the budget. Obama put it on the budget and made them transparent to the people. What about the deregulation of Wall Street? The new Obama Policies added since taking office cost us $1.4 trillion (stimulus plan, funding for green jobs, tax cuts, etc.) against the 14 trillion debt that we owe. Obama aside…
Please tell me... What policies did the Republicans do for us and small businesses that actually helped you and the middle class over the last 10 years?
As far as your numbers go...I quoted 1 source in my blog, but it took me actually 5 minutes of searching to find another source on the internet. This source is from Business Insider...and I don’t know if it swings left or right. It is called "The Truth about who really owns all of Americas Debt" & in a nutshell; the treasury owes foreigners and foreign government’s $4.5 trillion total of the $14.3 Trillion Debt. As you said around 32% Total. These are sourced from the US Treasury; .9% Hong Kong 1% Caribbean, 1.1% Taiwan, 8% China, 6.4%Japan, 2.4% UK, 1.5% Brasil, other Oil Exporting Countries 1.6%). The rest is held in the United States. (Fed.Reserve/Mutual Funds/ Money Market Funds/ Commercial Banks in the U.S. own 17.8%)... however of that china is the largest holder of Foreign debt but only about 8-10% of the 14.3 Trillion. TO BE CLEAR... NOT 27% of the 14.5 (making it unclear makes all of the difference in the world).
I’m Just Saying…
I would never be thankful to watch from the side lines as my country looses it balance, if anything I see it more clearly. Really it is not about where we have been but what do we want for our future? And apparently I have to add... my future. You know I am still an American citizen dont you? I just wish we could get to that point together with out blaming either party...as I think about it what does it help? I point out the China debt because even I thought they owned most of the debt but was suprised to get the true numbers and by this I am showing how much defaulting will affect Americans lives.